Friday, December 16, 2005

The Incredible Stormmontgate?


The first and so far the only casualty from the Stormontgate scandal Denis Donaldson,  was last night was expelled from Sinn Fein following revelations he had been exposed as a British agent. Adams & Co will hold a press conference today at 4pm in the Gresham Hotel, O’Connell Street, Dublin.
 
Speaking in Dublin the broken-hearted Adams said, “The nature of British rule is that for a very long time it has been driven by a security agenda, with policy dictated by British Intelligence.  The Good Friday Agreement is about ending that”.

But the fact remains, that the key person at the centre of those events was a Sinn Féin member. What now for all the good and great statements made by Sinn Fein about Mr Denis Donaldson. If Sinn Fein was incorrect about this, what else are they incorrect about? 

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

why is Ken Maginnis standing to he right of Brigadier Gerard in the photo you use on this thread? Has infiltration reached the very top of the Shinners?

Anonymous said...

Are you saying its all over for Sinn Fein? To the right and above Adams shoulder, (Its Not Over Until The Fat Lady Sings) :)

Outstanding In My Own Field said...

Is Donaldson the first ever Chuckycrat? LMAO.

El Matador said...

Heh-heh "Chuckycrat"

Parnell said...

Notice: El Blogador cannot respond to anonymous comments..we can laugh!

outstanding: Since its Christmas, Ho! Ho! Ho!, "Chuckycrat!!!", Ho! Ho! Ho!

Anonymous said...

Now we have CHUCKY-GATE. Lets see Sinn Fein 'WRIGGLE WRIGGLE out get out of this. YO HO HO HO, YO HO HO HO. . Maybe its just as well that 'The Nutting Squad (TNS) has gone away. Merry Christmas to all your readers.

Diarmid said...

Are you actually blaming Sinn Fein for the fact that the British were able to turn Donaldson into a spy?

Anonymous said...

diarmid you will have to ask Donaldson that question. Maybe the wages were better than Sinn Fein were paying. Just hope that he declared his total income to The Inland Revenue.

Anonymous said...

Diarmid - The Brits didn't turn Donaldson. Donaldson would have made that decisional by himself. Maybe as the previous anom has said that the Brits paid more or this is a white-wash set up by Sinn Fein and The British Government. I'd say that Donaldson was far to smart to be a British agent knowing the consequences he would face if caught. This episode stinks of a British Government / Republican set up to back track calls for a Public Enquiry into why there were no prosecutions in StormontGate. Let’s hear Peter Hain deny this. But Hains & Adams denials will fall on deaf ears. We all know what Masters of bending The TRUTH we are dealing with.

Madradin Ruad said...

Why be surprised that a fellow traveller of Adams - cell-mate no less accoring to one new report - turns out to be a dirt-bird ? Dirt-birds flock together.

As for blaming SF - yes - if they were choosier about who they allowed to join .... oh but wait - there would be a lot less Shinners then ;)

What fun - Was Scap at the University of Long Kesh ? Very Cambridge , very '30's

I'm looking forward to hearing what Ed Moloney has to say - Scap and Donny - Next question - who was the Third Man ? Who was the Philby? Who was the Blunt ? Ed dropped some hints in his book LOL

Anonymous said...

You can laugh but is this true. Is it true the really heavyweight Super Stooper, Prod with the Rod, is gonna Out any Tout?

Anonymous said...

Whats going on?. The PC took place at 4:00pm at the Gresham. This site carried at 3:37pm and, full story, 3:47pm. It dosen't fit. Again I ask who the hell are you?.

November Rain said...

What now for all the good and great statements made by Sinn Fein about Mr Denis Donaldson. If Sinn Fein was incorrect about this, what else are they incorrect about?

Alternatively

What about all the good and great statements from the SDLP about how the PSNI had changed and that political policing targeted at Nationalists and their representatives was over. If they were incorrect about this, what else are they incorrect about?

Parnell said...

PS: There you go again, "What about this - What about that"? So, What about the fish that got away or is that too difficult to digest? The fact remains this Chuckycrat was a senior Shin Fein member, as such, he spoke for the party.

hensons said...

Now that it is been established that the PSNI pulled down a democratically elected "govt" are the sdlp STILL going to support them.

Parnell said...

Hensons: Stop talking rubbish. When was this established, who established it? The fact remains Chuckycrat Denis Donaldson was a longtime senior member of Sinn Fein.

November Rain said...

Agreed, parnell

But having found of of this disgraceful attempt by RUC and PSNI Special branch to spy on elected representatives of the nationalist people, Sinn Féin have quickly diassociated themselves from those responsible for this by removing Donaldson from the party. Will the SDLP also disassociate themselves from people in Special Branch responsible for this by resigning from the Policing Board?

The SDLP promised a non-political, neutral PSNI working for both communities and respecting the opinions of all. They thought the PSNI was such an organisation. How wrong they were.

Parnell said...

PS: When was this supposed discraceful attempt to spy on elected represenatives established ?

Thats the point. Nothing was established. The evidence on Stormontgate needs to be made public.

We need to know who decides whats in the public interest and what's the explanation for dropping these charges. What could the reasoning for dropping the charges?.

hensons said...

parnell you are still being very evasive on the sdlp future role with the psni.

they supported them during the murder of catholics during the war and now they find themselves supporting them during their spying activity in peacetime.

Madradin Ruad said...

Hensons - Donaldson was turned in the 1980's when the IRA were still murdering left, right and centre.

Would any of our SF supporters dare say that SF haven't sympathetic agents or have had agents by bribery or blackmail within the Police, The Civil service or other agencies ?

Is it unreasonable for the police to have had an agent in an organisation - and I'll be charitable here - that was in frequent and intimate contact with an armed and active terrorist organisation and with many members concurrently in both organisations over the years ?

If and when SF stop committing political crimes I dare say the Coppers will occupy themselves elsewhere.

Catch yourself on Missus ;)

Madradin Ruad said...

p.s. Donaldson himself made the point that he had had very little contact with his handlers in the years prior to the raid - so the surveillance was decreased as IRA activity dropped - seems fair and proper to me.

hensons said...

whats that got to do with the sdlp blind support of the ruc and then the psni and their supporters refusals to demand they disenagage with the psni for collapsing the institutions?

Madradin Ruad said...

You seem confused dearie. Your argument is based on the claim that the RUC acted unreasonably in recruiting Dirty Denis and that the PSNI acted unreasonably in continuing to run him. As you are wrong to so claim, as shown in my posts, your attack on the SDLP is worthless - hot air and bluster to cover shinner embarrasment at once again having been caught with their pants down :)

El Matador said...

Hensons-

If the SDLP supported the RUC, why did they push for the Patten reforms. Surely if it ain't broke, don't fix it?

However, the SDLP recognised that the RUC was broken, so got it fixed, and are now bringing a new form of accountable policing.

Unlike SF, whose ex-party member Donaldson has had to flee to the continent, thanks to their form of 'justice'.

Madradin Ruad said...

I'd like to see an explanation why it was wrong for the police to recruit Donaldson - a convicted terrorist - as an informant long before the "Ceasefire" and the Belfast agreement.

Madradin Ruad said...

Incidentally - as well as the Northern Bank raid and the Murder of Robert McCartney - let's not forget the other Jacobin project - the Tohill abduction - guilty pleas.